Historically speaking, the RSCI matters, as it gives us a glimmer of insight into how prospects were viewed previous to entering college. There are many cases of talented players underachieving in college and seeing their NBA draft stock fall significantly, due to a variety of reasons.
Sometimes these players end up having the last laugh, though, as they are able to rediscover the talent that got recruiting services so excited about them early on in their career later on, which resulted in a NBA team getting a steal.
Players like Josh McRoberts (RSCI #2 2005, #37 pick 2007), Monta Ellis (RSCI #3 2005, #40 pick 2005), Andray Blatche (RSCI #4 2005, #49 pick 2005), Kyle Singler (RSCI #6 2007, #33 pick 2011), Louis Williams (RSCI #7 2005, #45 pick 2005), Lance Stephenson (RSCI #7 2009, #40 pick 2010), Chase Budinger (RSCI #7 2006, #44 pick 2009), Mario Chalmers (RSCI #10 2005, #34 pick 2008), Carlos Boozer (RSCI #9 1999, #35 pick 2002), DeAndre Jordan (RSCI #14 2007, #35 pick 2008), Mo Williams (RSCI #17 2003, #47 pick 2003), Amir Johnson (RSCI #17 2005, #56 pick 2005) and Trevor Ariza (RSCI #21 2003, #43 pick 2004) are some of the more notable examples of highly touted RSCIers who ended up being drafted in the second round and significantly exceeded where they were picked.
That's not to say that this happens consistently or even frequently, as the various RSCI lists throughout the years are littered with players who amounted to very little at both the college and pro level, regardless of where they were drafted (they are getting better every year, though).
It's just another variable to be aware of in a player's evaluation and evolution, as understanding as much as possible about their background and realizing why they were (or weren't) held in such high esteem early on in their career is important information that helps in trying to decipher how they arrived to where they are today.
With that in mind, here's what the 2014 NBA Draft class would look like if the players were picked SOLELY off their RSCI ranking going into college. Keep in mind that no international (non-North American) players are here, as they were not evaluated by the high school recruiting services for obvious reasons. 15 international players are currently projected to be drafted in our latest 2014 Mock Draft.
"PICK" | DX-100 | RSCI | PLAYER | Class | TEAM | AGE |
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1 | 1 | 1 | Andrew Wiggins | Freshman | Kansas | 19.2 |
2 | 4 | 2 | Julius Randle | Freshman | Kentucky | 19.4 |
3 | 9 | 3 | Aaron Gordon | Freshman | Arizona | 18.6 |
4 | 17 | 3 | Kyle Anderson | Sophomore | UCLA | 20.6 |
5 | 35 | 4 | Isaiah Austin | Sophomore | Baylor | 20.5 |
6 | 3 | 5 | Jabari Parker | Freshman | Duke | 19.1 |
7 | 59 | 6 | James McAdoo | Junior | North Carolina | 21.3 |
8 | 6 | 9 | Marcus Smart | Sophomore | Oklahoma State | 20.1 |
9 | 7 | 10 | Noah Vonleh | Freshman | Indiana | 18.7 |
10 | 15 | 11 | James Young | Freshman | Kentucky | 18.7 |
11 | 58 | 11 | Khem Birch | Junior | UNLV | 21.6 |
12 | 24 | 13 | P.J. Hairston | D-League | Tex Legends | 21.3 |
13 | 46 | 14 | Jabari Brown | Junior | Missouri | 21.3 |
14 | 43 | 16 | Patric Young | Senior | Florida | 22.2 |
15 | 13 | 18 | Gary Harris | Sophomore | Michigan State | 19.6 |
16 | NR | 19 | Joe Jackson | Senior | Memphis | 22.2 |
17 | 33 | 21 | Glenn Robinson | Sophomore | Michigan | 20.3 |
18 | 21 | 21 | Adreian Payne | Senior | Michigan State | 23.2 |
19 | 51 | 23 | Nick Johnson | Junior | Arizona | 21.3 |
20 | 2 | 23 | Joel Embiid | Freshman | Kansas | 20.1 |
21 | NR | 24 | Chane Behanan | Junior | Louisville | 21.6 |
22 | 16 | 26 | T.J. Warren | Sophomore | N.C. State | 20.6 |
23 | 22 | 26 | Rodney Hood | Sophomore | Duke | 21.5 |
24 | 12 | 27 | Tyler Ennis | Freshman | Syracuse | 19.7 |
25 | 29 | 27 | Mitch McGary | Sophomore | Michigan | 21.9 |
26 | 36 | 31 | Roscoe Smith | Junior | UNLV | 23.0 |
27 | 52 | 32 | LaQuinton Ross | Junior | Ohio State | 21.4 |
28 | NR | 33 | Josh Hairston | Senior | Duke | 22.3 |
29 | 49 | 34 | Dwight Powell | Senior | Stanford | 22.7 |
30 | 56 | 35 | Jahii Carson | Sophomore | Arizona State | 21.6 |
31 | 57 | 35 | Aaric Murray | Senior | Texas Southern | 24.8 |
32 | 72 | 36 | Keith Appling | Senior | Michigan State | 22.2 |
33 | NR | 36 | David Wear | Senior | UCLA | 23.6 |
34 | 44 | 37 | Johnny O'Bryant | Junior | LSU | 20.9 |
35 | NR | 37 | Cameron Clark | Senior | Oklahoma | 22.6 |
36 | NR | 37 | Travis Wear | Senior | UCLA | 23.6 |
37 | NR | 38 | Ian Miller | Senior | Florida State | 22.6 |
38 | 70 | 39 | Jordan McRae | Senior | Tennessee | 23.1 |
39 | NR | 40 | Jamil Wilson | Senior | Marquette | 23.4 |
40 | 19 | 42 | Jerami Grant | Sophomore | Syracuse | 20.1 |
41 | NR | 44 | Nate Lubick | Senior | Georgetown | 22.9 |
42 | NR | 45 | J.T. Terrell | Senior | USC | 22.4 |
43 | NR | 51 | Okaro White | Senior | Florida State | 21.6 |
44 | 27 | 52 | Zach LaVine | Freshman | UCLA | 19.1 |
45 | NR | 54 | James Bell | Senior | Villanova | 22.3 |
46 | NR | 55 | Casey Prather | Senior | Florida | 22.9 |
47 | 62 | 55 | Semaj Christon | Sophomore | Xavier | 21.5 |
48 | NR | 56 | Travis McKie | Senior | Wake Forest | 21.5 |
49 | 26 | 58 | Jordan Adams | Sophomore | UCLA | 19.8 |
50 | 32 | 59 | DeAndre Daniels | Junior | Connecticut | 22.0 |
51 | NR | 62 | Tarik Black | Senior | Kansas | 22.4 |
52 | NR | 64 | Trevor Releford | Senior | Alabama | 22.3 |
53 | NR | 67 | Rion Brown | Senior | Miami FL | 22.6 |
54 | NR | 68 | Terone Johnson | Senior | Purdue | 22.8 |
55 | NR | 70 | Gary Franklin | Senior | Baylor | 23.4 |
56 | NR | 75 | Bruce Ellington | Senior | South Carolina | 22.7 |
57 | NR | 76 | J.J. Moore | Senior | Rutgers | 22.9 |
58 | 82 | 78 | Jakarr Sampson | Sophomore | St. John's | 21.1 |
59 | 57 | 78 | Cory Jefferson | Senior | Baylor | 23.3 |
60 | NR | 78 | Geron Johnson | Senior | Memphis | 21.6 |
So Who Are We Missing?
Coming out of high school, a number of players who are currently projected to be drafted were nowhere to be found in the various recruiting service rankings. Here's a look at those who would have went undrafted if the players were picked SOLELY off their RSCI ranking going into college.
DX-100 | RSCI | PLAYER | Class | TEAM | AGE |
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10 | NR | Doug McDermott | Senior | Creighton | 22.3 |
14 | 80 | Nik Stauskas | Sophomore | Michigan | 20.5 |
20 | NR | K.J. McDaniels | Junior | Clemson | 21.2 |
25 | NR | Elfrid Payton | Junior | La Lafayette | 20.2 |
28 | 85 | Shabazz Napier | Senior | Connecticut | 22.8 |
30 | NR | Cleanthony Early | Senior | Wichita State | 23.0 |
36 | 133 | Spencer Dinwiddie | Junior | Colorado | 21.0 |
37 | NR | Deonte Burton | Senior | Nevada | 22.7 |
42 | 148 | C.J. Wilcox | Senior | Washington | 23.3 |
47 | NR | Jordan Clarkson | Junior | Missouri | 21.9 |
48 | NR | Russ Smith | Senior | Louisville | 23.0 |
50 | NR | Devyn Marble | Senior | Iowa | 21.6 |
54 | NR | Josh Huestis | Senior | Stanford | 22.3 |
65 | 142 | Markel Brown | Senior | Oklahoma State | 22.2 |
67 | 123 | Lamar Patterson | Senior | Pittsburgh | 22.7 |
68 | 127 | Joe Harris | Senior | Virginia | 22.6 |
69 | NR | Fuquan Edwin | Senior | Seton Hall | 22.6 |
71 | 84 | C.J. Fair | Senior | Syracuse | 22.6 |
73 | 115 | Aaron Craft | Senior | Ohio State | 23.2 |
81 | 90 | Markel Starks | Senior | Georgetown | 23.2 |
89 | 103 | Alex Kirk | Junior | New Mexico | 22.4 |
98 | 131 | Xavier Thames | Senior | San Diego State | 23.2 |
No one saw Doug McDermott, K.J. McDaniels or Elfrid Payton developing into NBA prospects coming out of high school, let alone potential first round picks. Cleanthony Early, Deonte Burton, Jordan Clarkson and Russ Smith also developed into much better players than they were given credit for being in high school, which may potentially tell you something about their work ethic.
A player like Devyn Marble (the son of a NBA draft pick and college legend) may have been dinged by the recruiting service for simply being too young when they evaluated him. He entered college as a 17-year old, and thus was likely competing against players a year or two older than him in high school and AAU. He was ranked as a two to three star recruit, and held scholarship offers from Providence, Dayton, Detroit, Buffalo and Fairfield according to a Scout.com article in 2009.
Clarkson, Payton, McDaniels, and Dinwiddie were also young for their class
Biggest Overachievers
Now that we've established a baseline, we can take a look at which players exceeded their RSCI ranking the most thus far, with where they are currently projected to be drafted, compared with how they were ranked coming out of high school.
Note: any player unranked in the RSCI was given a number of 151 for the sake of consistency. In reality, a player like Doug McDermott or K.J. McDaniels may have been ranked much lower.
DX-100 | RSCI | PLAYER | CLASS | TEAM | AGE | CHANGE |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
10 | 151 | Doug McDermott | Senior | Creighton | 22.3 | 141 |
20 | 151 | K.J. McDaniels | Junior | Clemson | 21.2 | 131 |
25 | 151 | Elfrid Payton | Junior | La Lafayette | 20.2 | 126 |
30 | 151 | Cleanthony Early | Senior | Wichita State | 23.0 | 121 |
37 | 151 | Deonte Burton | Senior | Nevada | 22.7 | 114 |
42 | 148 | C.J. Wilcox | Senior | Washington | 23.3 | 106 |
47 | 151 | Jordan Clarkson | Junior | Missouri | 21.9 | 104 |
48 | 151 | Russ Smith | Senior | Louisville | 23.0 | 103 |
50 | 151 | Devyn Marble | Senior | Iowa | 21.6 | 101 |
36 | 133 | Spencer Dinwiddie | Junior | Colorado | 21.0 | 97 |
54 | 151 | Josh Huestis | Senior | Stanford | 22.3 | 97 |
69 | 151 | Fuquan Edwin | Senior | Seton Hall | 22.6 | 82 |
65 | 142 | Markel Brown | Senior | Oklahoma State | 22.2 | 77 |
14 | 80 | Nik Stauskas | Sophomore | Michigan | 20.5 | 66 |
68 | 127 | Joe Harris | Senior | Virginia | 22.6 | 59 |
28 | 85 | Shabazz Napier | Senior | Connecticut | 22.8 | 57 |
67 | 123 | Lamar Patterson | Senior | Pittsburgh | 22.7 | 56 |
73 | 115 | Aaron Craft | Senior | Ohio State | 23.2 | 42 |
98 | 131 | Xavier Thames | Senior | San Diego State | 23.2 | 33 |
26 | 58 | Jordan Adams | Sophomore | UCLA | 19.8 | 32 |
32 | 59 | DeAndre Daniels | Junior | Connecticut | 22.0 | 27 |
27 | 52 | Zach LaVine | Freshman | UCLA | 19.1 | 25 |
19 | 42 | Jerami Grant | Sophomore | Syracuse | 20.1 | 23 |
2 | 23 | Joel Embiid | Freshman | Kansas | 20.1 | 21 |
57 | 78 | Cory Jefferson | Senior | Baylor | 23.3 | 21 |
12 | 27 | Tyler Ennis | Freshman | Syracuse | 19.7 | 15 |
89 | 103 | Alex Kirk | Junior | New Mexico | 22.4 | 14 |
71 | 84 | C.J. Fair | Senior | Syracuse | 22.6 | 13 |
16 | 26 | T.J. Warren | Sophomore | N.C. State | 20.6 | 10 |
81 | 90 | Markel Starks | Senior | Georgetown | 23.2 | 9 |
13 | 18 | Gary Harris | Sophomore | Michigan State | 19.6 | 5 |
22 | 26 | Rodney Hood | Sophomore | Duke | 21.5 | 4 |
6 | 9 | Marcus Smart | Sophomore | Oklahoma State | 20.1 | 3 |
7 | 10 | Noah Vonleh | Freshman | Indiana | 18.7 | 3 |
3 | 5 | Jabari Parker | Freshman | Duke | 19.1 | 2 |
1 | 1 | Andrew Wiggins | Freshman | Kansas | 19.2 | 0 |
21 | 21 | Adreian Payne | Senior | Michigan State | 23.2 | 0 |
4 | 2 | Julius Randle | Freshman | Kentucky | 19.4 | -2 |
29 | 27 | Mitch McGary | Sophomore | Michigan | 21.9 | -2 |
15 | 11 | James Young | Freshman | Kentucky | 18.7 | -4 |
82 | 78 | Jakarr Sampson | Sophomore | St. John's | 21.1 | -4 |
36 | 31 | Roscoe Smith | Junior | UNLV | 23.0 | -5 |
9 | 3 | Aaron Gordon | Freshman | Arizona | 18.6 | -6 |
44 | 37 | Johnny O'Bryant | Junior | LSU | 20.9 | -7 |
62 | 55 | Semaj Christon | Sophomore | Xavier | 21.5 | -7 |
24 | 13 | P.J. Hairston | D-League | Tex Legends | 21.3 | -11 |
33 | 21 | Glenn Robinson | Sophomore | Michigan | 20.3 | -12 |
17 | 3 | Kyle Anderson | Sophomore | UCLA | 20.6 | -14 |
49 | 34 | Dwight Powell | Senior | Stanford | 22.7 | -15 |
52 | 32 | LaQuinton Ross | Junior | Ohio State | 21.4 | -20 |
56 | 35 | Jahii Carson | Sophomore | Arizona State | 21.6 | -21 |
57 | 35 | Aaric Murray | Senior | Texas Southern | 24.8 | -22 |
101 | 78 | [url=Geron Johnson | Senior | Memphis | 21.6 | -23 |
101 | 76 | J.J. Moore | Senior | Rutgers | 22.9 | -25 |
101 | 75 | Bruce Ellington | Senior | South Carolina | 22.7 | -26 |
43 | 16 | Patric Young | Senior | Florida | 22.2 | -27 |
51 | 23 | Nick Johnson | Junior | Arizona | 21.3 | -28 |
35 | 4 | Isaiah Austin | Sophomore | Baylor | 20.5 | -31 |
70 | 39 | Jordan McRae | Senior | Tennessee | 23.1 | -31 |
101 | 70 | Gary Franklin | Senior | Baylor | 23.4 | -31 |
46 | 14 | Jabari Brown | Junior | Missouri | 21.3 | -32 |
101 | 68 | Terone Johnson | Senior | Purdue | 22.8 | -33 |
101 | 67 | Rion Brown | Senior | Miami FL | 22.6 | -34 |
72 | 36 | Keith Appling | Senior | Michigan State | 22.2 | -36 |
101 | 64 | Trevor Releford | Senior | Alabama | 22.3 | -37 |
101 | 62 | Tarik Black | Senior | Kansas | 22.4 | -39 |
101 | 56 | Travis McKie | Senior | Wake Forest | 21.5 | -45 |
101 | 55 | Casey Prather | Senior | Florida | 22.9 | -46 |
58 | 11 | Khem Birch | Junior | UNLV | 21.6 | -47 |
101 | 54 | James Bell | Senior | Villanova | 22.3 | -47 |
101 | 51 | Okaro White | Senior | Florida State | 21.6 | -50 |
59 | 6 | James McAdoo | Junior | North Carolina | 21.3 | -53 |
101 | 45 | J.T. Terrell | Senior | USC | 22.4 | -56 |
101 | 44 | Nate Lubick | Senior | Georgetown | 22.9 | -57 |
101 | 40 | Jamil Wilson | Senior | Marquette | 23.4 | -61 |
101 | 38 | Ian Miller | Senior | Florida State | 22.6 | -63 |
101 | 37 | Cameron Clark | Senior | Oklahoma | 22.6 | -64 |
101 | 37 | Travis Wear | Senior | UCLA | 23.6 | -64 |
101 | 36 | David Wear | Senior | UCLA | 23.6 | -65 |
101 | 33 | Josh Hairston | Senior | Duke | 22.3 | -68 |
101 | 24 | Chane Behanan | Junior | Louisville | 21.6 | -77 |
101 | 19 | Joe Jackson | Senior | Memphis | 22.2 | -82 |
It's no surprise to see the high school no-names like McDermott, McDaniels and Payton at the top of this list, but it's interesting to see the type of jump guys like C.J. Wilcox, Spencer Dinwiddie and Nik Stauskas were able to make. Those three were not complete unknowns, but were in fact simply ranked at the bottom of RSCI lists.
It's always interesting to see players like Joel Embiid, who shot up recruiting boards very late in his high school career, but in hindsight could have been propelled much higher even. Jordan Adams, Zach Lavine, Jerami Grant and Tyler Ennis all were also able to improve much more quickly than initially thought.
Biggest Underachievers
Which players underperformed their RSCI ranking the most thus far, with where they are currently projected to be drafted, compared with how they were ranked coming out of high school?
Note: any player unranked in the DraftExpress Top-100 Prospects was given a number of 101 for the sake of consistency. In reality, a player like Josh Hairston or David Wear would be ranked much lower.
DX-100 | RSCI | PLAYER | CLASS | TEAM | AGE | CHANGE |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
101 | 19 | Joe Jackson | Senior | Memphis | 22.2 | -82 |
101 | 24 | Chane Behanan | Junior | Louisville | 21.6 | -77 |
101 | 33 | Josh Hairston | Senior | Duke | 22.3 | -68 |
101 | 36 | David Wear | Senior | UCLA | 23.6 | -65 |
101 | 37 | Cameron Clark | Senior | Oklahoma | 22.6 | -64 |
101 | 37 | Travis Wear | Senior | UCLA | 23.6 | -64 |
101 | 38 | Ian Miller | Senior | Florida State | 22.6 | -63 |
101 | 40 | Jamil Wilson | Senior | Marquette | 23.4 | -61 |
101 | 44 | Nate Lubick | Senior | Georgetown | 22.9 | -57 |
101 | 45 | J.T. Terrell | Senior | USC | 22.4 | -56 |
59 | 6 | James McAdoo | Junior | North Carolina | 21.3 | -53 |
101 | 51 | Okaro White | Senior | Florida State | 21.6 | -50 |
58 | 11 | Khem Birch | Junior | UNLV | 21.6 | -47 |
101 | 54 | James Bell | Senior | Villanova | 22.3 | -47 |
101 | 55 | Casey Prather | Senior | Florida | 22.9 | -46 |
101 | 56 | Travis McKie | Senior | Wake Forest | 21.5 | -45 |
101 | 62 | Tarik Black | Senior | Kansas | 22.4 | -39 |
101 | 64 | Trevor Releford | Senior | Alabama | 22.3 | -37 |
72 | 36 | Keith Appling | Senior | Michigan State | 22.2 | -36 |
101 | 67 | Rion Brown | Senior | Miami FL | 22.6 | -34 |
101 | 68 | Terone Johnson | Senior | Purdue | 22.8 | -33 |
46 | 14 | Jabari Brown | Junior | Missouri | 21.3 | -32 |
35 | 4 | Isaiah Austin | Sophomore | Baylor | 20.5 | -31 |
70 | 39 | Jordan McRae | Senior | Tennessee | 23.1 | -31 |
101 | 70 | Gary Franklin | Senior | Baylor | 23.4 | -31 |
51 | 23 | Nick Johnson | Junior | Arizona | 21.3 | -28 |
43 | 16 | Patric Young | Senior | Florida | 22.2 | -27 |
101 | 75 | Bruce Ellington | Senior | South Carolina | 22.7 | -26 |
101 | 76 | J.J. Moore | Senior | Rutgers | 22.9 | -25 |
101 | 78 | Geron Johnson | Senior | Memphis | 21.6 | -23 |
57 | 35 | Aaric Murray | Senior | Texas Southern | 24.8 | -22 |
56 | 35 | Jahii Carson | Sophomore | Arizona State | 21.6 | -21 |
52 | 32 | LaQuinton Ross | Junior | Ohio State | 21.4 | -20 |
49 | 34 | Dwight Powell | Senior | Stanford | 22.7 | -15 |
17 | 3 | Kyle Anderson | Sophomore | UCLA | 20.6 | -14 |
33 | 21 | Glenn Robinson | Sophomore | Michigan | 20.3 | -12 |
24 | 13 | P.J. Hairston | D-League | Tex Legends | 21.3 | -11 |
44 | 37 | Johnny O'Bryant | Junior | LSU | 20.9 | -7 |
62 | 55 | Semaj Christon | Sophomore | Xavier | 21.5 | -7 |
9 | 3 | Aaron Gordon | Freshman | Arizona | 18.6 | -6 |
36 | 31 | Roscoe Smith | Junior | UNLV | 23.0 | -5 |
15 | 11 | James Young | Freshman | Kentucky | 18.7 | -4 |
82 | 78 | Jakarr Sampson | Sophomore | St. John's | 21.1 | -4 |
4 | 2 | Julius Randle | Freshman | Kentucky | 19.4 | -2 |
29 | 27 | Mitch McGary | Sophomore | Michigan | 21.9 | -2 |
1 | 1 | Andrew Wiggins | Freshman | Kansas | 19.2 | 0 |
21 | 21 | Adreian Payne | Senior | Michigan State | 23.2 | 0 |
3 | 5 | Jabari Parker | Freshman | Duke | 19.1 | 2 |
6 | 9 | Marcus Smart | Sophomore | Oklahoma State | 20.1 | 3 |
7 | 10 | Noah Vonleh | Freshman | Indiana | 18.7 | 3 |
22 | 26 | Rodney Hood | Sophomore | Duke | 21.5 | 4 |
13 | 18 | Gary Harris | Sophomore | Michigan State | 19.6 | 5 |
16 | 26 | T.J. Warren | Sophomore | N.C. State | 20.6 | 10 |
12 | 27 | Tyler Ennis | Freshman | Syracuse | 19.7 | 15 |
2 | 23 | Joel Embiid | Freshman | Kansas | 20.1 | 21 |
57 | 78 | Cory Jefferson | Senior | Baylor | 23.3 | 21 |
19 | 42 | Jerami Grant | Sophomore | Syracuse | 20.1 | 23 |
27 | 52 | Zach LaVine | Freshman | UCLA | 19.1 | 25 |
32 | 59 | DeAndre Daniels | Junior | Connecticut | 22.0 | 27 |
26 | 58 | Jordan Adams | Sophomore | UCLA | 19.8 | 32 |
To follow up on our note from earlier on highly ranked RSCI prospects who ended up being drafted in the second round (or not at all), we can point to a number of former Top-25 recruits:
Isaiah Austin (#4 RSCI 2012) is one NBA teams will be studying closely, in an attempt to decipher whether he underachieved in college simply due to physical immaturity that might be corrected in time with patience and a better strength program?
James McAdoo (#6 RSCI 2011) is a baffling case, as he likely would have been drafted in the lottery had he left after his freshman season, but instead might not get picked at all following his junior year. Was he simply misevaluated, or does he just need a change of scenery to fulfill the massive potential he was projected to have as a high school recruit?
The same questions can be asked of Joe Jackson (#19 RSCI 2010), Khem Birch (#11 RSCI 2011), Jabari Brown (#14 RSCI 2011), and to a lesser extent, Patric Young (#16 RSCI 2010). Is there anything worth salvaging here, and should they possibly be looked at in a different light based on what recruiting services thought of them just a few years ago?
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